Ben-Gvir and Segal Clash Over Ideology, Palestinian Statehood

National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir engaged in a heated exchange with journalist Amit Segal during a public interview, where he accused Segal of disliking him and defended his controversial policies.

Ben-Gvir directly confronted Segal, stating, "You despise me a little," and asserted his willingness to "eat gravel" to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state. He also defended the use of harsh prison conditions as a deterrent, claiming it prevents future attacks. Ben-Gvir argued that his approach, which includes strict measures against terrorists, is more effective than the policies of his political rivals.

Segal challenged Ben-Gvir on his controversial stances, including the "golden gallows" law and the perceived negative international reaction to his policies. He questioned whether Ben-Gvir's actions truly serve the Israeli people beyond generating political support. Segal also brought up Ben-Gvir's past alliance with Bezalel Smotrich, suggesting Ben-Gvir's criticism of Smotrich was inconsistent.

Ben-Gvir responded by emphasizing his broader appeal beyond the religious Zionist community, aiming to connect with the periphery, secular, and traditional populations. He also praised MK Tali Gottlieb for her perceived fight against the "deep state," suggesting she was targeted by elements within the Likud party who preferred a coalition with Benny Gantz.

The interview also touched upon crime rates, with Ben-Gvir attributing a decrease in vehicle thefts partly to lockdowns in Judea and Samaria. When questioned about removing a picture of Dr. Baruch Goldstein from his home, Ben-Gvir stated he does not believe killing Arabs is good but considers killing terrorists a great mitzvah. He concluded by predicting that if his party, Otzma Yehudit, does not secure 15 mandates in the next election, Prime Minister Netanyahu will form a government with Benny Gantz.